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Post by howll on Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:02 pm

so I'm starting to pick up stuff in prep for Evelynn to arrive. Today I got a pack of watercolour pencils, and I guess pastels are a good thing to have, but what else? I think I'm going to stay away from painting, it never goes well with me.  What sealant shall I get? What should I do to prep the face before starting? Beat in mind I'm in the UK and would rather not order stuff online if I have to, what's an equivalent to MSC that can be picked up easily?
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Post by Purple_Monkfish on Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:40 pm

Citadel purity seal (games workshop) is apparently pretty good.
Chalk pastels and of course the watercolour pencils
False lashes (buy some super cheap ones from superdrug or boots, superdrug have some in their clearance section sometimes lol)
Tacky glue for said lashes. You want tacky glue because eyelash glue is useless and i've found regular pva just doesn't dry quite fast enough.

Inset lashes make a huge difference to the girls I think, but aren't essential of course.

that's my general kit. watercolour, pastel, lashes. seems to work pretty well.
Magic erasers are useful but i'm not sure where to buy them (mine was sent to me by a friend in scotland).

oh! A fine paintbrush for teeny little lines (you can lick the brush and use that to deepen some of the watercolour lines, or to get into those teeny cracks and crevices) and a larger brush for blush (apparently a small makeup brush is great for this as it holds more pigment than a regular paintbrush)

Sioux's the resident expert though, she usually has some excellent advice.

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Post by jupiternames on Thu Apr 02, 2015 1:22 am

I remember an old video the lab released illustrating that you can seal the face with pva glue before makeup, which makes the makeup removable. On the other hand, I didn't seal before or after watercolor pencils. I sort of like touching up my girls' makeup and I've got a lot better at applying watercolor pencils over time.

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Post by Purple_Monkfish on Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:38 am

I found pva gives a wierd shine in photos that I don't like at all. I never seal beforehand, i'm too impatient hahaah. I should, but I get really like.. eager to start and forget.

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Post by howll on Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:49 am

I think I'm gonna pass on the pva, don't trust myself and The shine would annoy me.  I'm assuming it's fairly easy to work on makies due to the slightly porous plastic?  Thanks for all the tips guys!

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Post by Purple_Monkfish on Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:21 am

they have their own particular... quirks heh. Much easier to draw on with pencil because of the surface being a little rough, but a little harder to clean off again because the skin loooves to absorb pigment. A tea towel helps lol. something a little rough to gently encourage smears off.

But their raised brows and removable eyes certainly make painting those bits sooo much easier. you have guide lines! lol.

I'm excited to see what you do with her, but also to hear what you think of the texture etc.

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Post by DollYay on Fri Apr 03, 2015 5:39 pm

Does anybody use Mr. Super Clear? In all the face-up videos I watch they use it but it seems like such a hassle...

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Post by Purple_Monkfish on Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:15 pm

I have some. I haven't noticed it being any better or worse than the humbrol hobby spray I was using. It just has a much more acrid horrible poisonous quality. You have to hold your breath and run haha.

I don't think i'd bother with the expense next time. Humbrol hobby spray is readily available or citadel purity seal, both work fine though purity seal does have a tendency to leave white specs that you have to pick off.

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Post by DollYay on Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:56 pm

Thanks! I don't like the "hold breath and run" strategy either. For Sci's tiny bit of eyeliner I just put it right on, as I didn't know what the heck I should use to seal it! Hope that's not a problem...

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Post by jupiternames on Sat Apr 04, 2015 7:00 am

I didn't seal any of my Makies. The only risk I can think of is that the eyeliner could be more easily chipped or scuffed. It may wear over time. Just as an example, Poppy's been with me since November or December and I think I've freshened up her eyebrows once or twice with watercolor pencil.  During that time, she has visited San Diego and she is frequently a passenger in my purse.

Unless anyone else could think of any concerns, I wouldn't worry about Sci's eyeliner.

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Post by DollYay on Sat Apr 04, 2015 1:10 pm

I'm not worried. It was more of a test than a permanant thing.  if anyone somehow can't find watercolor pencils, a normal colored pencil softened in water for a few minutes works too. Smile


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Re: Customising makies, what should I get?

Post by howll on Mon Apr 06, 2015 11:11 am

So I got some supplies, eyelashes, watercolour pencils, pastels and some brushes etc.  I'm staying away from acrylics at the moment, I have some anyway if I feel brave.  However, I'm still racking my brain over sealing, I found this stuff in hobbycraft and wondered if anyone knows whether it would work?

 

I don't really wanna bother ordering MSC, it's expensive and I'll have to import it, but is this generally the same kinda stuff?

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Post by Purple_Monkfish on Mon Apr 06, 2015 11:51 am

You need to make sure it's safe on plastics. I know games workshop seal works AOK because it's designed for plastic models, so anything that's safe for "airfix" or whatever should be absolutely fine.

MSC is expensive and honestly i'm not convinced it's any better than the cheaper stuff. I've tried several and while I have two cans of msc to use up, I doubt i'll buy more when I do run out because the hobby seal worked just as well for my purposes. Maybe it makes a difference on resin, but on plastic? not so much.

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Post by howll on Mon Apr 06, 2015 11:54 am

Hmm, it's all very confusing.  I'm a bit apprehensive of the games workshop deal what with the White spots and also the disaster on that one video when it went all cloudy.

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Post by Purple_Monkfish on Mon Apr 06, 2015 12:38 pm

yeah the white spots you can pick off, certain humidity can cause clouding of ALL sealants. even msc will do it if it's humid outside or you hold it too close. Sadly such are the perils of sealant.

I've used Humbrol hobby seal and not had a problem, i'm not sure where to buy it in a pysical store though, I tend to get my supplies online because i'm lazy.

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Post by Dandelion5 on Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:13 pm

I used Montana Gold Clear Matte Spray its basically the same as MSC spray but its £5 and you can get it from most art and craft shops. Most of my Blythe dolls were matted with it.

For my Makies lips I used Mod Podge to seal.
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Post by Almostreal on Sun May 03, 2015 11:52 pm

That Dayler Rowney stuff is meant for use on pastel or watercolour paper. Not sure if it would work on plastic. Its more like hairspray than varnish. 

Is it possible to just darken the eyebrows and eyelashes a little with watercolour pencil without using a sealant?

Also has anyone used posca pens? ( They are like markers filled with acrylic paint.
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Post by nattherat on Mon May 04, 2015 12:01 am

You can draw directly onto the makie with no sealant!
If you're worried, perhaps open up the makie's head and use the inside of the skullplate to practice on. That's what I've been doing to develop a palette for Rell's face-up. You can draw directly onto the Makie with no problem.

Sealants are used for surface prepping (if you want a smoother surface/good base), and "saving" the finished face-up, protecting it from damage.

It's an entirely optional part really! But without sealant, the makie nylon is quite absorbant, and you might find some of your face-up doesn't come off again, or it might smudge because it isn't being held.

I have posca pens, I don't think I'd recommend them for use on Makies. Unless perhaps you're doing something like putting eyeliner on? Posca are great but they're very very strong. There's absolutely no mistaking it once you've put it on there.

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Post by Almostreal on Mon May 04, 2015 12:26 am

Thanks!
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Post by nattherat on Mon May 04, 2015 1:09 am

No problem - I look forward to seeing your customising! Very Happy

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Post by jupiternames on Mon May 04, 2015 1:24 am

I haven't used any sealant or done any prep. I actually like being able to do touch ups on my girls. I just use watercolor pencils, nothing else. I haven't seen smudging really, even though I typically carry one of the Makies in my purse on the weekend. But I definitely retouch them periodically as their makeup tends to wear off.

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Post by Almostreal on Mon May 04, 2015 2:05 am

Ever used inktense pencils?
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Post by jupiternames on Mon May 04, 2015 3:29 am

No, I just bought a pack of reeves pencils from my local art store, but I'm confident any water color pencils would work.

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Post by Purple_Monkfish on Mon May 04, 2015 7:49 am

Mine are WHSmith own brand hahahah. They were super cheap years ago and I found them in the attic when I bought my first three Makies. Lol. I can't even remember WHY I had them in the first place.

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Post by JRyu on Tue May 05, 2015 10:11 pm

I've used metallic markers for eye shadow on my Cocoa bean skinned Makies. It looks pretty good on the cocoa skin, has the same shimmery look that some eye shadows have. ^_^
It takes a light touch and a steady hand though, and you want the type that comes to a point, rather than a chisel edge.

Also I don't recommend Crayola brand metallic or glitter markers, while they do work, I don't entirely trust how well the color sets up. Especially since the folks at Crayola have kind of become obsessed with this whole "easy to clean", no mess no fuss thing lately. 0_o

I'm sort of tempted to try seeing what I can do with my Sharpie permanent markers, ^_~

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